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[EDITS IN 2010]

I revised the System Settings section, detailing what settings categories can be found under which major groupings in both the General and the Advanced tabs. I also moved town the empty Fonts section to below System Settings, since KDE handles Fonts under System Settings. I'll fill in the Fonts section next. If you don't see anything, i didn't get to it yet, but will within a day. SilverBear 14:51, 2 January 2010 (EST)

I started in on the "Other Dolphin Tricks" section at the end of the page, but need to continue it tomorrow.

IMO we ought to consider having a linked page for Dolphin. There's plenty of New Stuff with Dolphin that we can easily fill a page. What do you all think?

I agree, had that thought the other day when I pasted something in from ML. Jerry bond 19:11, 2 January 2010 (EST)

I changed the headlines over to wiki-style markup from mixed wiki and html markup, and most of the text. Did not do the list formatting yet.

SilverBear 10:42, 12 March 2010 (EST)

Older Stuff

According to this page kcontrol no longer exists : kcontrol no longer exists. Use the program systemsettings instead.

--So I changed the wiki entry that referred to kcontrol as the CLI name for System Settings SilverBear 11:46, 3 October 2009 (EDT)

Thanks, and thanks for helping out with this. Some of the material that is there has been taken straight from KDE sources, which are often well behind the curve. Still, I find it easier to check and edit against the actual install--finally, Warren's--than to invent everything myself. Jerry bond 12:12, 3 October 2009 (EDT)

I guess those http links are just a cut'n'paste relict, so I can clean it up using small magic?

 sed -e 's/<a href="/[/' -e 's/">/ /' -e 's/<\/a>/]/'

--Hanzl 03:02, 5 October 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for asking. The User's Manual is set up so that the links are visible, by Warren's request, and I am using the HTML format here to make that happen so that later all I have to do is paste this page into the revised Manual. Jerry bond 06:28, 5 October 2009 (EDT)
OK, so I will not touch it now.--Hanzl 07:32, 5 October 2009 (EDT)
Once that is in the Manual, it would make sense to come back and do what you propose so it looks better. I am just concerned with trying to revise the Manual on short notice with very little help, so am being as lazy as possible! Jerry bond 07:34, 5 October 2009 (EDT)
Do you need to convert some other pages the other way around (wiki->URL)? I would think up the right filter...--Hanzl 07:43, 5 October 2009 (EDT)
That's a great idea, thanks. Let me think about that and give you an example of a page we might try that with. Jerry bond 08:10, 5 October 2009 (EDT)
OK. The rough inverse magic usable from the command line is:
 sed -e 's/\[http:\([^ ]*\) \([^]]*\)]/<a href="http:\1">\2<\/a>/g'   <wiki-style-file >url-style-file
or I can convert pages you point me at and send them to you.--Hanzl 08:58, 5 October 2009 (EDT)
What might be ideal would be to 1) establish a new Category "Manual"); 2) use that Category to designate the Wiki pages that will go directly to the Manual (mostly the big topics); 3) create a batch script that would fetch the pages currently categorized "Manual," convert them, and dump them into a HTML file. If you like this suggestion I can post it on ML for comment and help. Jerry bond 09:50, 5 October 2009 (EDT)
OK, might be good. We already have a good deal of related ideas in Talk:Relation of wiki and manuals - that is even more ambitious. We did not do too much apart from having those ideas, so I am careful now to stay realistic. But we might strike a good balance by limiting it to automatic conversion of all pages in category Manual, where this conversion would be wikilink->urllink conversion and maybe few more similar ones.--Hanzl 10:08, 5 October 2009 (EDT)
Well, I did a real try. It is a horrible mess and I am not sure it helps, but, on the other hand, it is a real try instead of discussions :-) Maybe we continue and clean it, maybe we throw it away.--Hanzl 12:30, 5 October 2009 (EDT)

[Starting back at margin!] That's a good start. Eventually we will want to convert things like '''==Title==''' in '''<h2>Title</h2>''' as well (and lists), but that can wait. Thanks for putting time into this. Acesabe is right, the Wiki formatting will have to be standardized, but I have been trying to do that anyway. Jerry bond 14:16, 5 October 2009 (EDT)

SilverBear 17:37, 2 January 2010 (EST)

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