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Is the MEPIS Desktop in Need of a Makeover? Part 2

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From time to time, we hear from users who say that the look of the MEPIS desktop isn't on par with the quality of the MEPIS operating system. We tend to agree that the desktop could use a little makeover. The problem is that we just don't have the money to hire a professional to design a desktop, nor do we have the time to work on it ourselves. So this is a call to you graphic designers out there, and anybody else who would like to tackle the MEPIS desktop makeover. Please give us your comments and ideas, and also indicate whether you'd be interested in working on this project.

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Bryce 5

Joe Pearce wrote:
This is what I was waiting to see; something 3D that jumps off the page. What applicaion are you using? This is a really good job. It is a bit too happy for me, but it is great. It looks like you are off to a good start on a graphics career for Mepis.

Hi Joe;

It's Bryce 5 that I use!

I know you think it's a bit too happy, but this is what I reached after fiddling about in this program four only three hours.

So who knows what might happen?!?
I'm a creative designer during the daytime-job and wouldn't mind having a graphic career at MEPIS all the time!
Eye-wink
But we all know that's not going to happen...
Boohooo!
Sad

Jon Du Quesne wrote:
I am impressed Ruud! I think it's great. The only thing missing from that shot is a very tiny man with glasses and lots of money at the base of the pyramid looking very, very scared

I have no idea what comic you're refering to Jon, but it must be a funny one,
but maybe you could draw one and than I can include it in my next "mission impossible", hahah!

Ruud
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i figure its bill gates?

i figure its bill gates?

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Meplantis

Hi everyone;

I'm quite proud of the next result, another three hours of playing with this 3D-app.
This would be Meplantis then!
Eye-wink

I hope you like it a bit...

Ruud
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You Are Getting There

You are getting there fast. The image is a bit fuzzy. The night sky isn't quite right. You are getting there. I know, why don't I just do it myself. That would take away all of this fun.

Joe Pearce

The student is not above the teacher
The servant is not above the master
The student shares the teacher's fate
The servant shares the master's

http://www.joepearce.com

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Getting there...

JoeInTenn wrote:
The image is a bit fuzzy. The night sky isn't quite right.

Hi Joe;

It is a small pic indeed, that's why it's a bit fuzzy.
The nightsky is supposed to be water, that's why I called it Meplantis.

This is what I've been trying to make:
two glass pyramids, and a glass sphere, the moon under water.

The moon reflecting the two pyramids, and the water reflecting it all...

I was hoping that this was recognised that way.
Sad
Ruud

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one thing

Hey Ruud looks like you are enjoying bryce, its one of my favourite programs off all time, second only to xara, but I digress, one thing I hope you will do is make the moon much bigger and dont assign a glass/water material to it, maybe try one of those planet textures or earth textures that come with bryce, and you could then make the pyramids out of glass/water texture, anyway that is my suggestion, I think it would look good, keep it up!

Regards

Julz

PS before anyone asks why I havent made one myself, just call me lazy!

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I Got The Underwater Idea

Ruud, you amaze me! I DID get the underwater "motif" that you were using. I just looked at it again, and had an idea (probably a bad one). How about a small Tux scuba diving on by. Yeah, penguins don't need aqualungs, but you get the idea Smiling

Jon

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Maybe I'll dive into that, and a newer version.

Hey Jon';

Funny idea, but I'm not that good in this 3D-app, yet...
So be patient with me!

Glad you do like it though!

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Hi Everyone;

Could you believe I'm working on these wallpapers with a big grin on my face?!?

I'm starting to like this app more every minute, as you might understand!

Okay, maybe I tend to go quiet slow in improving the design,
but in this 3D-app, I don't think one can improve any quicker than this?!?
Or am I wrong about that?
Puzzled

Look at this, it took me three quarters of an hour...
I called it MEPISFuture, for all obvious reasons!
Look at the reflection in the sphere, it is amazing!
I'm not too shy to tell you I'm SO PROUD about it!


Laughing out loud

Happy-Happy, Joy-Joy!
(Stimpy, from Ren Hoek that is, hahah)

P.S. Julzz;
This is a bit of both our tastes, I just couldn't leave the metal sphere, next time maybe? Eye-wink

Ruud

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Umm,

Umm, Ruud, did you put that last slide in upside down? Smiling

Never mind, I'll just turn my monitor over...

Jon

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INSPIRATION, please!

Hi everyone;

Feel free to leave some of your thoughts in here with the wallpapers.
I'm not sure if I should go on with the same idea, two pyramids and a moon...
Should I bring in some other items like trees, sanddunes, or should I leave it clean as possible?

Give me some hints, comments, I could read all messages again, but going over 170 items, I think it would be easier to fill me in with some NEW/NEWER data and ideas. Maybe even build upon the two recent wallpapers, making a few additions?

Ruud

P.S. Does the MEPISteam think I'm on the right track, some advise would be appreciated!

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Logo

Maybe itsa better to start only on a new design of the logo our use the old logo in a new jacket. Then fill in the gap of the background.

The logo looks to big in my opinion and isn't looking familiar with the old one.

Goodwork and keep it up.

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More info forthcoming

Great work so far, everyone! Warren and I talked about the desktop redesign today and he's hoping to find some time soon to read through the threads and offer some advice. Thanks again for taking the time to help with this project.

Erin

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MEPIS Nights

Hi;
For all Mepis users, who are online or developing, when everyone else is asleep:


Ease to the eye and still Mepis...
More to come!
And a sunset:

Ruud
AdrianTM posted a Poll here:
http://www.mepislovers.com/forums/index.php?topic=3014.0
Vote people...
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My vector contribution

Well here is my constribution, probably will do another one based on this one!

Regards

Julz

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Julz, when it comes to art I

Julz, when it comes to art I can tell when some one knows what they are doing and you do. Your composition is great, nice job.
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haha

Thanks mate

Just too much time on my hands....

after looking at the above picture for a while, the pyramid shadows didn't look right, so here is an updated picture with a shadow tweak! I know its supposed to be a moon, but I liked the idea of a sunburst. I 'll let Ruud play with 3d software, Im a fan of vector art!

Julz

this is my last submission,

this is my last submission, this one is just for fun if anything.

Julz

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Great

julzzz wrote:
I 'll let Ruud play with 3d software, Im a fan of vector art! Julz

So am I, but I just had to go on...
It looks great what you did, Julzz.
Much closer to the original!
Ruud
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Helping out(Not Really Though)

I think MEPIS would be da bomb if we had a theme like the ones from PCLinux OS, add Transparency to windows and taskbar and add a nice wallpaper, viola! We have a nice looking MEPIS

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These is a poll on

These is a poll on Mepislovers on Ruud's wallpapers:
http://www.mepislovers.com/forums/index.php?topic=3014.0

It looks like watery desktop is winning.

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thanks for the ideas

Thanks to everyone who posted wallpapers and comments! We're using your feedback, ideas, and suggestions to update the look of the default desktop for the next release of SimplyMEPIS.

inspiration

hey, you're on the right track!!! i like the 3D effects better than pc linux anyday.

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Can't wait

emelbert wrote:
Thanks to everyone who posted wallpapers and comments! We're using your feedback, ideas, and suggestions to update the look of the default desktop for the next release of SimplyMEPIS.

Hi;

I can't wait to see the results!
Must be realy cool...
Smiling

Ruud

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Mandriva Desktop Theme

Since I am new to MEPIS, and Linux, there have been several distros that I have played around with lately.

The one that impressed me the most was the Mandriva 3D desktop features.

Is there a package that I can install to get the same look and feel of the window decorations and animations?

What I found useful:

> Placing the mouse cursor in the upper right hand corner tiled all the open windows on the desktop so that I could choose with window to bring to the front.
> When moving a window, it would apear to be elastic and stretch and bend when moving.

I know it is nothing serious, however I would love to see my MEPIS 6.0 powered laptop have the same features.

Just a suggestion ...

here it is

the guide to wondrous yet superfluous 3d effects: http://www.mepislovers.com/forums/index.php?topic=2590.0

Be aware that it may cause instability. My opinion is it is good for fun, but bad for productivity. But of course I am a grumpy middle aged seen-em-all-had-em-all kindaguy Smiling

Newbie or not Newbie, there's always a question

erin, sounds like you guys

erin, sounds like you guys made up your minds? whats it going to be?

Let's be very careful - egocentricity can deny lateral thinking

emelbert wrote:
Thanks to everyone who posted wallpapers and comments! We're using your feedback, ideas, and suggestions to update the look of the default desktop for the next release of SimplyMEPIS.

I certainly hope "We're using your feedback, ideas, and suggestions to update the look of...etc" doesn't stop at using only the submissions in these forums. If so I would far prefer we stay with the existing.

Although initially enthused, I found myself rapidly losing interest when it came down to a "look at me" effort.
IMHO although there was considerable effort being put in behind the scenes - IF a change is to be made to Mepis that is to have any "lasting power" I feel we need as well to reach OUTSIDE the small circle of submissions that we have seen here.

Irrespective of input effort & vested interests, submissions so far have not in any way reached the level that we need IF it is to warrant a change.

To the people that I have shown submissions - the ONLY area which has impressed users & non users alike has been from..
http://browse.deviantart.com/projects/contests/freespire/?order=9&alltime=yes
These are truly in a class of their own.

These were pointed out by one Mepis user very early in this discussion but there seems to have been very little, if any followthrough.

seagull, i think the "look

seagull,

i think the "look at me" comment is off the mark. i don't think these people were showing off at all. they were contributing, and really exited. these are great things not bad.

still, i agree that we should raise the bar and go to the pros, ie deviantart. no offense, to those who contributed here, but the freespire wallpapers from deviant art, were above and beyond what i saw here. setting up a contest on deviantart is EASY!

i think we have the chance to make an ugly looking distro look gorgeous, maybe even one of the most gorgeous. thats a big deal, and just what mepis needs. i think with a serious makeover, mepis can go straight to the top.

Constructive criticism accepted & I'm with you.

whorush wrote:
seagull,

i think the "look at me" comment is off the mark. i don't think these people were showing off at all. they were contributing, and really exited. these are great things not bad.

still, i agree that we should raise the bar and go to the pros, ie deviantart. no offense, to those who contributed here, but the freespire wallpapers from deviant art, were above and beyond what i saw here. setting up a contest on deviantart is EASY!

i think we have the chance to make an ugly looking distro look gorgeous, maybe even one of the most gorgeous. thats a big deal, and just what mepis needs. i think with a serious makeover, mepis can go straight to the top.

Hi whorush,
Texting & brevity means that postings don't always read quite as we would like them to & so I fully accept your response.

I am pleased also to see that at least you have stood up & spoken out as I was very concerned that we were not aiming high enough.

"mepis can go straight to the top" - Well I guess we are unlikely to ever beat the big money supported distros so we may never actually position at #1 but that is nothing to be ashamed of - we already place very well & are holding steady on Distrowatch - but are unlikey for the aforementioned reasons to touch #1.

However - I feel we can certainly reach a much WIDER audience & that's where aiming high ( & wide ) is so vitally important.

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OK, I have to make a comment

OK, I have to make a comment about this "looks" issue. I'm writing this from a Mac and I'm observing that:
1. the default wallpaper is a simple blue image
2. the wallpaper doesn't have any BIG logo, there only a small apple mark in the Menu
3. there's a consistenncy between widgets look and icons

From what I gather people consider that Macs are stylish. I'm not sure what's the general opinion, I don't care for looks so much, I just want something that's simple and that doesn't intrude and distrub you when you look at your desktop and this is the best example that I could find.

Why not go that way? Use a simple wallpaper with no BIG logo, or no logo at all. Of course this simplicity should be hand in hand with trimming down Kicker stuff...

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