No access to ROOT

Can you open a terminal (konsole) as normal user, then type
su
{root password}

If that works you should be able to do what you need to do

Mike

When I go to root all I have is the terminal window and a Mepis splash screen. There are not icons on the desktop and no tool bar at the bottom. This happened with the previous update. The user (winstephen) works fine.

SW

I would log in as user and try what mdmarmer suggests
open konsole type su at the prompt hit enter then put in your root passwd hit enter see what happens. I don't know whats wrong. but its obviously with your root account. trying to switch to root in konsole from your user login might give you/us some insight into whats wrong.
all I can think of is you put a space in you root login info when you installed but really don't know.

Makes no difference...
At boot, if I login as ROOT all I get is a plain splash screen (i.e., no icons and no tool bar at the bottom)with a konsole window only - it works. (I would that I were better with CLI then it would make little difference, but I am not.)

However, when I exit konsole I do not go to ROOT desktop. I go to the login screen again. If I log in as USER all is well. If I open konsole it works (as USER or as ROOT).

If - when I am USER - I switch users to ROOT - I have the same problem, konsole window over a plain splash screen.

Oh, the splash screen is the default USER screen, not the expected ROOT plain gray screen with the yellow and black skull and crossbones.

winstephen

winstephen, I don't think you understand mdmarmer's suggestion. What he's suggesting is NOT that you switch to another user that happens to be root. He means that you log in as you (do you get KDE?). Once you are logged in OPEN A KONSOLE. So you are still logged in as you and have a konsole open. Now, from within that konsole, enter "su" (no quotes). You will be prompted for root's password. Enter it. Now, how do things work? You will not see root's wallpaper because you only have a konsole session being used by root, not the entire environment.

Why are we suggesting that you do this? So that we can isolate whether the problem you are having is the login process (kdm) vs the user environment (/home/user/.kde or /root/.kde). There could be other things involved, but let's try to narrow down the situation first.

BTW, what are some of the things that you want to do as user root? There may be alternatives.

Jon

In /dev/null, no one can hear you type...

If I log in as me (winstephen) I have no problem using konsole as either winstephen or as su. As su I can navigate and execute commands just fine.

If I log in as ROOT the only option I have is to use konsole. That is all that opens when I log in as ROOT.

winstephen

OK do this:

login as user
goto system > MEPIS > MEPIS user config

tab repair > mark KDE app Configs and select user root

click OK

check if you can logon now

Newbie or not Newbie, there's always a question

Not!

But, this time the TIPS popup was there.

winstephen

TRy using the same tool and resetting the group assignments for root as well.....

Newbie or not Newbie, there's always a question

Been there done that.
When you suggested doing the KDE apps one and it did not work I tried doing assignments and then tried again using both.
Nada/

sw

From the user account, open a konsole and su to root At this point the konsole working directory will be root

Now in the konsole:
cd .kde
rm cache*
rm socket*
rm tmp*

This deletes the kde cache, etc for the root user. On rare occasions these user files can become corrupted and prevent kde from starting for that user.

If the files are deleted, then they will be recreated correctly by KDE the next time you login as root.

I thought, "This is will probably work."

NOT!

I bet you are about ready to say, "Bug off." Or, at least, "Maybe you need to just reinstall."

You are patient.
Thanks
Stephen

Not a good idea to log in as root

Maybe I should break my root login -- I would never use it.

Mike

I don't think anyone here feels that way. maybe you could try this a different way
start your computer and at the login screen login as user
click on the house in the kicker panel(konqueror)
when it opens click the up arrow until all you see is the address bar is "/"
click on "root"
now right click(in an open spot in window) choose actions then open as root enter you root passwd
a new konqueror window will open
now(in the new window) click on view and make sure show hidden files is checked
scroll down and find .kde click on it
now right click and choose delete on cache*
do the same for tmp* and socket*
I don't know just firing a shot here good luck
edited post to fix error

NaDa, still not GUI in ROOT

Tell me, is there a terminal command to open a graphic window?

Just thought of something else. It did not happen right away, but this happened after I put a terminal icon on the kicker. (I got tired of going thru menus.)

Is it possible that has become a default login for ROOT?

winstephen

I dreamed about this last night. Went to sleep trying to visualize what happened when I added terminal to the kicker.

I believe it went to the right side of the bar (those are the programs which start at boot).

Where do I find the ROOT profile/preferences for that?

Stephen

I am only guessing, but I would guess that if I delete the last entry (kde-konsole,desktop) my problem will be solved.

This is now displayed in Kwrite. If I delete that entry, do I just click “save” ?

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Contents of etc/launcher_panelappletrc

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AutoAdjustMaxItems=8
Buttons=kde-kinfocenter.desktop,mepis-oscenter.desktop,kde-systemsettings.desktop,kde-ksysguard.desktop,kde-konquerorsu.desktop,kde-konsole.desktop
ConserveSpace=true
DragEnabled=true
IconDim=0