Apt-Get update errors!?!?

Debian's site is down, so their mirrors are probably down also.?? Please try them again in a couple of hours.

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No I don't think that's it. It's just those mirrors that are giving me trouble - and its been like that for a few days. I can still download from all the other mirrors.

I'm just concerned as this appears to be some kind of security warning.

GJ

Don't worry, this is not a security issue. You are just missing the keys to some of the mirrors. I have not seen this error myself, but I found this solution, which might, or might not work. Let me know and then we can go from there.

apt-get install debian-keys -t experimental

gpg --import /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg

apt-get update

root@0[root]# apt-get install debian-keys -t experimental
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package debian-keys
root@0[root]# apt-get install -t experimental debian-keys
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package debian-keys
root@0[root]# gpg --import /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg
gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created
gpg: can't open `/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg': No such file or directory
gpg: Total number processed: 0
root@0[root]#

You could give those commands another try, but now without the experimental.

There is a chance that something has gone wrong with the debian mirror and they changed the public key. This problem might fix itself in a few hours, or you can always change the mirror, which is pretty easy: just exchange the 'ie' for another country code. If you are in Europe, 'nl' has worked well for me.

I just did an apt-get upgrade/update, all went well..?? Sound still gave a fit, but easy enough to overcome.

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Well I changed it to ie to nl and it's still happening:

Failed to fetch http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-3.1.95/./Packages.gz 404 Not Found
Reading Package Lists... Done
W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.ie.debian.org stable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A
W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org stable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A
W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org testing/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A
W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org unstable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

Persistant messages like this are usually a sign that something is wrong - and if I don't fix it it may get worse.

Do you guys have any insight as to the actual cause of this?
So far l have only been able to speculate, but I would like to pin this down to an exact cause.

I don't like things I can't fix.

I'm crazy like that I know.

GJ

Sorry GJ, I am out of wisdom here. Somebody else who has an idea?

Got a firewall/proxy blocking your updates??? Are you root??? Sorry, I have to ask, it is in the GNU.. ???? Just seems like something is not letting you update..?? Redundent I know, but ensure your user has rights to execute your requests..??

I did another update/upgrade w/o errors.

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• The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

Did you recently edit the /etc/apt/sources.list to try to upgrade to kde 3.2?

Because the folder kde-3.1.95 no longer exists in http://people.debian.org/~ccheney

If you point your browser to that page you`ll see it`s now been upgraded to kde-3.2.0

Sorry don`t know nothing about key errors, can`t help you with that one

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Well it looks like apt-get is just very easy to break - and it seems that it has a habit of breaking itself. (I have just reinstalled BTW).

If you try to install a package via dpkg and it fails due to dependency issues - and then you try to install a different package via apt-get, apt-get will fail - and will refuse to do anything until you resolve the dependency issues on you previous (and unrelated) install attempt. This can lead you into a real dependency hell, where you need to resolve dependencies that themselves require dependencies - and that cannot be installed because they depend on various parts of each other - which again have different dependencies - and so on it goes. I hear that they are working on a unified installer for Linux.(http://autopackage.org/) If you ask me they can't do it soon enough.

Wether it will work any better than apt is another matter.

GJ

You're correct, apt-get often chokes itself, mainly due to depencies of missing libraries. That's a little problem most people has to face, but it can usually be fixed/ unclugged with apt-get -f install.

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apt-key add /usr/share/keyrings/debian-role-keys.gpg

This required the debian-keyrings package.

What are good switches to use if I want to use the latest versions of various software? Is there a difference between testing and unstable? Is there an 'experimental' repository?

GJ

Yes there is a difference between testing and unstable. And there is an experimental repository but only use it if you are daring and don't mind having to fix problems that may occur.

My gpgv also returned an error, but also I got this message:

aeris@Radha: ~$ sudo apt-get install debian-keyring -t experimental
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
?????? debian-keyring
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 172 not upgraded.
Need to get 7642kB of archives.
After unpacking 9675kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get: 1 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe debian-keyring 2004.07.05
[7642]
Fetched 1B in 0s (3B/s)
Failed to fetch
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/d/debian-keyring/debian-keyring_2004.07.05_all.deb
Size mismatch
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?

I have to add, that I tried to fetch this keyring some times before already, that's why it just fetched 1B

Any Ideas? I'll try to get the debian-keyring manually from the packages.debian.org site, but probably it won't help. (running a debian with additional ubuntu sources which results in something like a debian experimental)

Best regards,

Aeris

apt-get install debian-archive-keyring

Worked for me anyway.