Synaptic Upgrades Want to Un-install 30 Apps!

Due to the recent changes in the Debian repositories, you need to be very careful when upgrading or installing. Mepis uses KDE 3.3 something, but many new packages have been compiled to use on the unstable (at the moment) KDE 3.4, which is why synaptic wants to get rid of your "old" KDE.
Hope that helps.

anticapitalista

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

are u using synaptic to update it will not install things like that unless u tell it to just do the default upgrade it will hold the other packages back that might break your system. and lock a2ps its screwed.

javajake, if you are using synaptic, do NOT do the "Smart Upgrade"; you will break your system! Instead, use the "Default Upgrade". Smart Upgrade is for a pure Debian system. Mepis is derived from Debian but there are modifications.

Also, check your /etc/apt/sources.list. This is my current list:

# See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy

# This file may be edited by the MEPIS System Center
# Do not modify the comments manually!
# Change sources only in the section at the end of this file!

# Primary
# deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
# deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

# MEPIS apt pool - specific packages available on-line
deb http://apt.mepis.org/3.3/ unstable main

# DO NOT EDIT ABOVE THIS LINE
# mplayer
# deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main

Lines beginning with "#" are comments and do not "work".

If you change your sources.list then you will need to perform a Reload in synaptic once you have saved the list.

Jon

NNOOOOOOOOO! I did a smart upgrade! KDE Control Center is GONE! HEEEELLLLPPPP!

javajake, the respositories have been in a real mix up the last couple days. I too lost the control center. You can fix that part by doing (as root, from the Konsole):
apt-get install kdebase-data/testing

kdebase-data is where all the info is kept for the control center. The "/testing" (no spaces before it) indicates to load from the testing branch. That's where all (much?) of KDE 3.3 has been moved and why KDE has been borked.

I can't promise that everything will work in KDE at the moment, but according to one of my logs of upgrades that I do automatically, kdebase-data was "upgraded" on Friday. So you should be safe with reinstalling just it

Jon

Thanks.

If I install a future version of MEPIS over my current one, will that contain the latest KDE version?

From,
Jacob - an ExpandGames Developer

If he Mepis team sticks to their original plan, they are going to have KDE 3.4 in the 3.3.2 version of SimplyMepis.

You have been following the other posts, and you have been burned because of the dynamic change that's been going on this weekend, in KDE as well as Debian. It appears that the Debian repositories are starting to pull the KDE 3.4 stuff into the repositories.

If you want to play with "bleeding-edge" stuff then be prepared to be cut a few times.

I'm not doing any testing on 3.3.2. I'm keeping busy supporting my current systems for me and a client. I'm spending my other time helping on the support forum, so as I have recommended to you and others before, I would recommend patience in upgrading Mepis and/or KDE right now or you will find "surprises".

Jon

This whole thing started because I was trying to update some components that would never update in Synaptic correctly...

Well, thanks for your help! I do like to have the latest stable version, but don't like to beta-test except on PDAs, as they don't usually require much to get back to normal...

From,
Jacob - an ExpandGames Developer

Glad to help javajake. One thing to watch for while all this "fun" occurs, is that kdebase-data doesn't disappear again. I have an automatic process that I run (that I may disable for a couple weeks) and twice now kdebase-data has been upgraded/removed. I have even pinned all of the KDE stuff through synaptic at the current release until all the excitement is over and I see someone post a semi-official, "COME GET YOUR KDE 3.4!".

So I have had to use my quick-and-dirty re-un-update-downgrade-alizer (patent-pending) a couple times

Jon

"So I have had to use my quick-and-dirty re-un-update-downgrade-alizer (patent-pending) a couple times" Hahahaha....

Thanks a bunch!

From,
Jacob - an ExpandGames Developer

kde 3.3 until 3.4 can be installed without wrecking things.