for those who want kde 3.5

Anyone try this process?

Another forum post (presumably from a knowledgable MEPIS contributor/moderator) states that using dist-upgrade (instead of upgrade) results in an installation which is no longer MEPIS.

Should I upgrade to KDE 5.4 using dist-upgrade or not?
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GreyGeek

Yes, I did it as written, and it still looks like Mepis to me.

Rich

I followed the instructions to the letter.

But, after 305MB of downloads which included three timeouts while attempting to download kdelib4c23, a firefox file, and some hplib file (and I don't have an hp printer) I rebooted and found that I am still running KDE 3.4.2.

The recommendation was to do an apt-get "upgrade" or a "fix-me", but since those files appear to be missing from the repository I am not sure an "upgrade" would work. And then, there's the risk that an "upgrade" could result in a downgrade if the upgrade tried to install a file which "needed" the prior version of KDE.
What the smiley for a rock and a hard place?

That should read:
# kde 3.5
deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.0/ ./
deb-src http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.0/ ./

regards,
Bad Dog
GNU/Linux User #38026X
SimplyMEPIS 3.4 - KDE 3.5
Kernel 2.6.12-1-p4-smp
INTEL P-IV 3.0GHz - 2X256 DDR3200

I wrote that was still in testing kde 3.5. Those instructions are still good i still use the same to update my systems to kde 3.5, it only removes 1 package(xfonts) when it upgrades. I tried changing mine to yours to upgrade to the current kde 3.5. but it just wants to remove most of the current kde 3.5-rc1 from my system instead of update.

When you updated yours with that one did it upgrade everything or did you lose some stuff(like k3b,ect..)? And did you do it on a clean install or did you upgrade a current setup? i usally do the upgrade right after a clean install. Can you let me know what it removed,if you remember, i have my system set up perfectly right now and am not going to change it. but i haven't upgraded my other system at all and would like to try if the chance of turning it in to toast is slim.LOL

edit: Hey baddog, i tried your repo list on my other computer and it won't even update kde, it just wants to uninstall everything and upgrades 5 items and installs 2 items. did you have to jump through hoops to get upgraded?

Hi Kerry, first off I use Synaptic, my settings are "always ask" and "Consider recommended packages as dependencies" and I only do default upgrades, I got most of KDE 3.5 with my debian pool set for sarge, that took 2 updates, I got the rest by setting the debian pool to etch and sid, like I said this was done using the default upgrade. If I can't get what I want one way I will try another. Any thing that gets removed is replaced by an upgraded file or I will not do the upgrade. This system was SM 3.3. When the SM pool went to 3.4 I upgraded and also upgraded KDE to 3.4. When KDE 3.5 went final I upgraded. I don't like to use sid and I don't care to use etch, most of the time I use sarge, but if I want something and I can get it, I will. This is my sources.lst, if you have any suggestions please tell. I hope this helps you as you have helped me and others here.

# My sources.list

# This file should be edited through synaptic

# Primary
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib
# deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
# deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free
# deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
# deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing/ etch/security-updates main contrib non-free

# MEPIS apt pool - specific packages available on-line
# deb http://apt.mepis.org/3.4/ sarge main
deb http://apt.mepis.org/3.4/ etch main
# deb http://apt.mepis.org/3.4/ sid main

# kde 3.5
deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.0/ ./
deb-src http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.0/ ./

# mplayer
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
# deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
# deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main

# Wine
# deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/

regards,
Bad Dog
GNU/Linux User #38026X
SimplyMEPIS 3.4 - KDE 3.5
Kernel 2.6.12-1-p4-smp
INTEL P-IV 3.0GHz - 2X256 DDR3200

I'm using the new mepis 3.4 rc1. I have left the repos stock, just adding the kde 3.5 repos. For me, i just did one smart upgrade to everything current using the stock etch and kde 3.5rc1. In synaptic it shows i have no upgrades available so i'm fully up to date. I only change to sid for the stuff i find do not work in testing(like: mozilla-mplayer). I'm finding that i like using xfce4 desktop more right now so i'm really not concerned about staying upto date in kde as i can still use all the kde apps from xfce4. My other computer is the family computer it has the new mepis and is fully updated from the stock repos.
I've really been tring to keep it simple since i just replace the whole thing when the new one's come out. So if it upgrades with out removing the entire system i'm happy, if not the stock is fine. Like i said with that old repo it only wanted to remove one package(xfonts-konsole) so what the hell might as well.so this is what i'm currently using-->
# See sources.list(5) for more information

# This file should be edited through synaptic
# New sources should be added only in the section at the end of this file!

# Primary
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

# MEPIS apt pool - specific packages available on-line
deb http://apt.mepis.org/3.4/ etch main

# mplayer
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main

# kde 3.5
deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5-rc1 ./
deb-src http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5-rc1 ./

Be careful! you can break things really bad! I tried this, and it messed up my KDE. I'm currently backing up my /home drive so I can reinstall Mepis 3.4-1rc1 from scratch!

Maybe KDE 3.5 isn't quite gelled yet... I wound up with all sorts of dependency errors.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is my new rule.

It always works for me. But i'd reccommend sticking with the stock set up, there's nothing in kde 3.5 that is ground breaking or is a must have. Plus it does require knowledge of the system to put things back to normal after the upgrade. I have just reinstalled my system as well and am just planning on using the stock kde since i have moved to the xfce4 desktop enviroment as i just like it. Just a note, my reinstall had noting to do with the kde 3.5 upgrade, i was messing around and deleted stuff that apparently is needed.LOL

I just want to let you know I was playing around with SM 3.4-2.rc1 today and could not get KDE 3.5 installed, I don't know why, but I ran out of time and now we have SM 3.4-2.rc2 out, I think I'll hold off for a while, Linux is a moving target.

regards,
Bad Dog

GNU/Linux User #38026X
iMAC G3-333 - RAM 288MB
Debian Sarge PPC - KDE 3.3

I first tried the method of 11/22/205, but it failed to work because kdelibs4c2, a firefox lib and hplib timed out. So, I changed the repository from 3.5-rc1 to 3.5.0, left the preferences file setting the same, and used Synaptic to do the upgrade. Rebooting brought up KDE 3.5.

Like others, I found that K3B wasn't added. It seems that the version of K3B in the repository requires kdelib4c2 but the version of KDE 3.5 that got installed uses kdelib4c2a, so the attempts to install K3B from the repository failed. I thought about downloading the K3B deb, making a link from kdelib4c2a to kdelib4c2, and doing a manual install, but decided to wait until K3B caught up with KDE 3.5.

I also notice that Kaffine was removed and that left mplayer for my video DVDs, but it has frame buffer skipping an Kaffine didn't. VLC gives smooth video, but it won't play sound because it can't see arts.
So, video has taken a step backwards. Other than that the KDE 3.5 upgrade went great.

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GreyGeek

This pool doesn't exist anymore (I assume because we are now at 3.5.2). Can anyone tell me the current address?

I didn't see any deb packages. Just tar balls.
http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.2-tarballs/

I wouldn't bother with those sources, you can get 3.5 from Debian repos now. For the simple how-to:

http://www.mepislovers-wiki.org/index.php?title=How_to_upgrade_to_KDE_3.5
http://www.mepislovers-wiki.org/index.php?title=Enable_Debian_Sources

I just got 3.5.2 from sid repos, via synaptic.

Works great, although the font size became smaller and needs tweaking.

Ken

You don't get all of KDE at the time of posting.
Also if you use nvidia pre 1.0.8178 be careful as an apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade will install the new nvidia-glx but not the nvidia-kernel necessary.
This is using the debian sid repos.

anticapitalista

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

Good point, but an hour later it appears all but kbackgammon (which I don't need or want) has been added. Certainly appears good, too.

Also I'm ATI not 'able' to be bitten by Nvidia.

Also I watch like a hawk what is happening, and don't allow known gotchas from happening. I can't say I haven't been bitten at least a half dozen times by 'upgrades' of some version of MEPIS / repos in the past, but I think I'm darn careful now.

Ken
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User #104362 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org

As long as one reads the messages one is 99% if not 100% safe.
Yesterday I upgraded kde too, and I think all that was missing got upgraded today.
I don't use all of KDE, in fact if it wasn't for K3B, I wouldn't keep it at all.
Upgrades are much quicker, and it seems, less troublesome without KDE.

anticapitalista

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

Would you mind posting the repository URLs that enabled you to install KDE 3.5.2?

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GreyGeek

It's the debian sid repos.
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
Yours may be different depending where you live.

anticapitalista

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free

Ken
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In a world without walls and fences nobody needs Windows and Gates!
User #104362 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org

Hi all. I'm running Mepis 3.4.3 final and the other day I upgraded KDE to 3.5.2 with no problems. I replaced my sources list with the one on the Mepislovers Wiki. http://www.mepislovers-wiki.org/index.php?title=Sources.list
Checked the sid repo's and reloaded. clicked on upgrade hal.

Went and had a coffee returned to the terminal. All downloaded. Answered no to the questions to keep the default settings. (all questions). All done, reboot and KDE 3.5.2 running as sweet as a nut so far. Everything installed and working. If there is something not then I haven't seen it yet. Hope this helps.