What is your opinion of the MEPIS logo and colors?

I like it.

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I like the logo - imho it absolutely shouldn't be changed.
The colour blue - although blue is rather cliche it's fine.

However, problem imho lies somewhere else:

More attention should be paid to the neat&clean desing of menus. My advice:

1. Less buttons
2. Less everything
3. More intuitive segregation after pressing "K" ---> older mepis distributions made me really dizzy and disoriented. I'd really reduce the amount of applications and regroup some:
ie. "Mepis System Centre"
contains a submenu
a. System configuration
b. Kde configuration
c. Other system applications
etc.

This stuff really matters, because it's the first impression. Mepis always have seemed chaotic to me. That's why I really like to direction Ubuntu is going.

These are small details that really matter.

btw. it's impossible to fill this survey and comment using Opera.
(at least on linux). Ffox works fine.

I think the logo is OK, I don't feel the need to change it. Slight modifications in e.g. boot screens, wallpapers, grub screens are possible, but I don't think you should go away from the idea "blue circle and two blue pyramids"

>1. Less buttons
>2. Less everything
> Mepis always have seemed chaotic to me. That's why I really like to direction Ubuntu is going.

But please, don't dumb down Mepis... That was the reason why I didn't even try Kubuntu - I looked at the screenshots, and thought: wtf, everywhere something is missing... less menus in menubars, less apps in K menu, less buttons in toolbars... please don't do it to Mepis, just leave the KDE defaults

(btw. why do all emoticons in the forum insert a <br> automatically? can somebody fix this?)

(and one more thing: can somebody tell us some estimates about when we can expect final Mepis 3.4.3?...)

the old one is fine.its very eye appealing.thanks john

I don't see the logo as one of the more important problems. I'd probably like it a little better if the hard lines were softened and it was made a little more abstract -- more like the previous one, I suppose.

Right now I'm much more concerned with a final, stable release.

I say keep the logo. The current logo is the original and is the visual icon that is associated with Mepis. If any changes are to be made, do nothing more than expand the current logo, i.e. add things to it, while keeping the core visual.

Most people assoicite things using some sort of visual means. Approximately 85% of all sales are based on eye appeal. As stated earlier, if the logo lacks the visual appeal that users want, then expand the logo by adding to it, but do not remove the original logo since most Mepis users associate that logo with Mepis. Thus I list my premises and argument:

1). The original logo is what users visually associate with Mepis.

2). I think the logo is visually appealing as is.

Therefore keep the current logo

caveat: understand that the current logo may not be visually appealing to everyone and changes may be needed, but only use changes that will expand upon the current logo. Do not remove the core visual which would remove the visual icon that user associate with Mepis.

Joe Pearce

The student is not above the teacher
The servant is not above the master
The student shares the teacher's fate
The servant shares the master's

http://www.joepearce.com

Stick with the logo; it's unmistakenly Mepis.

I always found the blueish Mepis colors to be a bit flat, dull, greyish. Not really attractive. Of course that's just my opinion.
A good overhaul/rethinking to get matched color/graphics designs for the "Mepis" iconset, bootgraphics, login/logout graphics, Kmenu-graphics, own colorscheme, some really sharp fonts (Eurostile?),wallpapers (selectable for different currently used screenformats - also wide-format).
Visual attractiveness probably is a major factor in successfully "making the sale". But don't overdo it...! And certainly not at the expense of improving functionality or adding new features.

Regards, Ko

Ko Bros

What logo?
Maybe it's just me but I don't see the proposed logo anywhere.

I like both the logo and the colors, however between the blue in the logo and the blue in KDE there always seems to be a little too much blue. I love blue, but all the desktop themes seem to be blue or dull earthy colors. It might be nice to have one or two bright (non blue) color themes for default desktops.

Most important to me is a nice stable distro that doesn???t lose the almost magical way the original 3.3 version seemed to run on almost everything I tried it on.

How about an orange-red sun instead of the blue one?

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I like the logo, but would like to see a darker shade of blue, and have it tied in with a new kde theme.

But basic Mepis (out of the CD) IS imho overloaded.
I like the direction Ubuntu is going - extra stuff can be installed easily, besides many thing really can be pushed into the "debian" section. Or at least regrouped, to make it look less messy.

Sure, mepis can have three web browsers, three mail clients, but what for? In the main "internet" section there should be only one of these:
for an example:

a. firefox
b. thunderbird
c. kopete
d. skype
e. azureus (or whatever)

THE END

Stuff like internet connections etc. should all be in one Mepis system centre or something like that. You want believe how much that improves the general impression a desktop does. I truly believe the discussion should be about organisation of the desktop. Having these basics you'd probably look at the colours and logo from a diffirent angle, without all the junk blocking your view :)

emelbert wrote:What is your opinion of the MEPIS logo and colors?
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Who is emelbert? Is there an introduction for him somewhere on this site?

Any body using MEPIS for any amount of time knows you can make it look any way you want. When some body says they don't like the look I know they are new to Linux and don't even know how to change the wallpaper.

I like the Logo just fine. I did see one time that some body did it in kind of a Chocolate to Tan color and that sure looked swell.

May be a help and/or theme page(really dummed down) and put a link on the left in the Support Section for those that would want to make a change.

I love the shape of the logo, but the shade isn't pleasant. I'd be delighted to see it in black instead.

Who's with me?!

I like the blue, but it would be nice to contrast it with something. Look at the CoolBird logo for an example of similar color contrasts:

https://www.securepaynet.net/gdshop/rhp/default.asp?domain=coolbird.com&isc=GPPGRS01&pl_id=253361

Another example is the "Point & Click Linux!" book cover on the right side of this page as I'm typing. I like a blue scheme with some kind of contrast. Maybe, as someone suggested, the sun could be colored orange.

I'm not crazy about the pyramids, but I understand the story of how the association came to be with MEmPhIS Egypt. A new, more Linuxy logo might be nice, though.

I also agree that Mepis should NOT be dumbed down like Ubuntu! PLEASE don't go down that road. Xandros has also messed up the standard KDE desktop so that it is hard for me to work with - and IMHO it lacks the beauty of a standard KDE. Simplifying through organization is OK, but staying close to a default KDE desktop is best, I think. The KDE folks are already working on that anyway.

I hope this process goes well. I love Mepis and I really want to see it succeed. I have used all of the major distros since 1998 and there has never been anything close to Mepis. It just hasn't been discovered by the masses yet.

NLK

I like it the way it is, but the overall theme could use some updating. Some changes could be made to be brighter or have more of a contrast. Maybe offer a mepis theme pack download for those who want something different and that would save space on the install CD for more important things. http://www.mepis-eyecandy.com/ also has other mepis logo variations.

I think Mepis needs to come alive in the artwork department. Linspire and PCLinux are a couple that l think paid a lot of attention here. If Mepis is to progress and attract new users it has to be attractive out of the box as well as functional. When you sell a product looks are the first thing that gets a prospective customer's attention and then once he is focused you can show him what's under the hood.

Wayne

Don't go changing Lil' Blue too much! Simply Mepis is an awesome OS just like it is, style-wise. Most folks I know that are in to that artsy style of computing change it all around anyway. The logo doesn't need changing either. I came to Mepis because it WORKS and I dig the community.

The Tramp

There are several conflicting pieces at work here.

New or old logo, doesn't matter: some will love it, some hate, and there will be many in between. It is all so subjective.

With that said, I like the pyramid and circles as far as the way they *look*, but not as far as what they *mean*. What do they mean? Ubuntu (I hate to keep comparing to Ubuntu, but whatchagonnado?) at least has some cohesiveness of message in their look: colors, logo, and slogan. "Linux for humans" (or something like that) with earthy, warm, human colors and a logo of people hugging.

Not that MEPIS should copy any part of that, except in overall concept -- colors, logo, and message that tie together well and make sense.

Personally, I prefer the (rather true) slogan (which I proposed in another thread somewhere) of "MEPIS: Better Than Ubuntu!"

I think the MEPIS colors could stand to be "sharpened" a bit; they are kinda gray, muddy, washed out. Also, some warmth wouldn't hurt -- blue is a fairly cold color and the result is a sense of cold sterility. Look at Ubuntu, again: the browns are warm and inviting. Human. (Once again, this is all heavily weighted by personal, subjective interpretation for each individual looking at the color scheme).

Another big HUGE *ENOURMOUS* problem, as I see it, is that computer programmers, administrators, geeks, if you will, are typically *HORIBLE* graphic designers. (Not always true, of course!!) I do feel that a talented graphic designer could take the current MEPIS logo, keep the colors nearly the same, but be able to tweak it in such a way to make it great, not merely adequate.

Overall, my vote is keep the essence of the current logo, tweak or change outright the colors, tweak the layout and presentation of the graphics. The changes need not be major.

Later, all...

JDS

I voted that I like the logo and colors for lack of a better option.

I do in fact have no problem with either. They serve the purpose and I know that when I see the double pyrimids and "moon" that I'm looking at MEPIS. I like that. I think the overall theme should stay the same though I'd have no problem seeing some "evolution" in the logo (much like the Suse chameleon).

I've seen the wallpaper that shows some "real" pyramids with an actual picture of the moon set behind them. It looked awesome.

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"Ubuntu (I hate to keep comparing to Ubuntu, but whatchagonnado?) at least has some cohesiveness of message in their look: colors, logo, and slogan. "Linux for humans" "

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I actually clicked on "like both", but if you must change something, a little more contrast is the most you should do - and changing the pyramids to a black against the blue background would fit the bill.

The orange-red sun idea might work, but I'd have to see it...

Keep the logo. It's distinctly MEPIS.

Re the colors, I think someone here already said that monochromatic blue is a rather dull, cold theme for a logo. I can't disagree with that. I suggest you infuse contrasting colors, something more striking and modern so as to convey MEPIS as the OS choice for the future.

- STYNGERSMASH -

"Share the world."

Here is a small change I made to the mepis logo. I used black pyramids and a red sun and yellow lightning. This is just a rough sketch.

http://blakes-server.gotdns.com/extra/mepis_logo_lightning.jpg

My opinion of the existing logo is its ok. It doesn't really grab my attention. I wouldn't use it as a desktop background.

It's recognizable, unique and I like it!

FRH

I like the current logo and the color is nice and soothing not offensive at all. I don't like ubuntu's color scheme, it was the first thing I changed when I used it. I agree that it's all a matter of opinion and everyone won't agree on how it should look.

The logo is great in both color and design. It is VERY distinctive.

Unlike many who say that there are too many apps in MEPIS I'd say that keeping the distro size close to the limit of a single CD is perfect. There are many situations where those installing MEPIS don't have access to a broadband connection so they can't run Synaptic to add those "special" apps or libraries.

The kudzu auto configurator, and sufficent audio and video card drivers so as to maximize the chances for setting up good sound and 3D acceleration during the install is a must. OpenOffice is a must. So are a firewall, spamassassin, KDE and all of its goodies, K3B, Kuickshow, Checkbook tracker, GIMP, FireFox, mplayer and or Kaffine, and as many audio and video codecs as are legal. Ndiswrapper is a must.

One IMPORTANT addition would be an improvement in the wireless setup in the MEPIS OS Center. Only ONE config at a time is currently allowed, and when you connect to another wireless you loose your previous info. This should be changed so that several wireless connection points can be configured and the one to which you want to connect at the moment can be selected from a dropdown combo or a tree list. Drop some games if you need space on the CD to add this feature.

Forget wasting time on a new logo or color scheme.
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I absolutely love the pyramids with the giant orb in the sky. Blue is a good color but that shade as a desk top is dull, dark and depressing. (Yes I know how to change my desk top) This comment is a reflection on what I thought when I was a brand new Mepis user. So if I had my wish the logo would stay the same (or basically the same) but brightened up. I also would like to see more continuity throughout all of the mepis menu screens.

But anyway you color it its still Mepis on the inside -- thank goodnees.

While I agree that the logo and basic colors are okay, I think that much more could be done with the entire layout, graphics, and appearance of Mepis.

I for the most part like the logo the only thing I think it needs is some integration of tux in it other than that i think you just need to maybe mess around with the hue of the colors but leave them blue